Saturday, May 21, 2005

University guys are whining babies?

It seems like being a man can be quite tough these days.

There has been a lot of talk lately targeted on local university male students. I read with interest in one of the local newspaper which interviewed female undergraduates and graduates on their opinions of their fellow male peers. To my surprise, of the 100 interviewees who participated in the opinion poll, 70 % of them felt that male undergraduates are whiners.

Oh really? My eyebrows rose. This seems too much like a sweeping statement to me.

I am not speaking up for male undergraduates and I do agree that there are really some black sheep who are immature in their thinking and love to whine. However, I believe these are just the minority of the male undergraduates. At the very least, most of the guys that I know in university are not whiners.

In the newspaper interview, some examples of immature guys that female undergraduates could not stand include: those who stay in hostel but rely on their girlfriend or parents to tidy up their rooms, make their girlfriend wash their dirty clothes (including soiled underwear), or guys who conveniently shun project work, do not do their tutorials and simply copy from others, guys who ask their female classmates for answers during tutorials just in case the tutor questions them and they will not give a silly answer, guys who have a question to ask the tutor but instead “encourage” the girls to do it for them. And the list goes on. One interviewee even cited an example of a guy who cried because of a disagreement during a committee meeting.

All these may be true experiences that some female undergraduates have seen or heard of the male students. These may also be the behaviour of some male undergraduates which irked their female schoolmates.

But, are these examples exclusive to guys? Do some girls not behave in this way as well? Why do girls react so strongly against guys who act in these ways? If I have a female and male friend who both cried during a committee meeting (this seems like a rather ridiculous and hilarious example), my heart would probably go out to the girl, console her and feel sorry for her being upset. As for the guy, I probably think, “my goodness! You are such a big man and yet you cry over such a small thing? You are so immature!”

Why do we set a relatively higher tolerance level for girls who whine, but slam guys who do so? Could it be because we expect too much from the guys?

In Singapore, when girls embark on their university studies, their fellow male freshmen are usually two years older, since all local guys have to go through National Service for about two years before going to university (unless they are disrupted due to scholarships or for other reasons).

Perhaps, it is because of this age difference (between the undergraduate guys and the girls in the same cohort) that makes it natural for the girls to think that the guys they meet in class and tutorials should be more mature in their thinking, have more confidence and have more opinions to share. And whining is a definite “no no”.

Perhaps, it is also because of the stereotypical views we have on guys: they should be stronger in mind, and in face of adversity, they should brace up and not succumb to it, much less reduce themselves to whining babies. As for girls, we tend to give ourselves and others more “allowance”: we need not always hold up a strong front, if things get too tough, it is fine to whine and cry a bit.

Some people may feel that all these talk about male undergraduates being whiners are nonsensical and senseless. I think it may well end up in a cross fire between the guys and girls, with each party saying “nasty” things (which may not be necessarily be true) about the other.

I feel that there is no point in bringing down the entire group of male undergraduates, make them appear in bad light in the media, much less portray them as whiners. Perhaps, everyone has a different phase of growing up; a whining boy today will grow up to be a mature young man later on, similarly for a whining girl. Let’s just hope the black sheep will grow up, and soon that is.

6 Comments:

At 8:33 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually... i dun like whiners... guys or girls... although I do whine once in a while...

but for one thing, with regards to school work, I rather forget about doing it den to haf to whine n beg for help.

as for asking gfs to do these kinda shit... i think if the girls are willing to do it, den I guess its ok...

but overall... i guess... when they go out to the real world. they will grow up. this is the last chance for them to whine, so let them be? lolz

 
At 9:12 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a few doubts on the accuracy of the survey. I feel that it really depends on the type of faculties of the girls the Newpaper survey approached. I came from engineering and I don't find the guys there whiny at all. They are definitely more mature than girls from other faculties that I know.

And talking about homwwork, engineering guys are more kiasu than gers... so somehow the situations stated in the article do not really apply.

+1 for yvonne. That particular survey serves no purpose at all.

 
At 9:38 AM , Blogger yvonne said...

haha...thanks!
Yes, I agree with siaoz too that whining a bit is alright for both guys and girls, especially in front of their friends...and of course too much of anything is no good.

 
At 11:55 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frankly whats wrong with whining? =)

Its merely an expression of tots, emotions, opinions. an outlet of fustration, sorrow and distress. a outpour of words and an excellent way of communication at times. haha. And of cos its bridges many relationships and frenships. Love often sprouts from whining doesnt it?

Before u frown and ponder about my words, let me qualify my statements..

To me, u will only whine to someone u trust, someone u are comfortable with and puts u at e utmost ease. so in sharing ur tots, fears, anxiety, or simply for e pure JOY of whining.. so its a great feeling to share. its an even BETTER feeling to noe u have someone u wana share with.. and of cos its a greatest JOY is to have someone share and whine to u..

at least to me, sharing my life/tots/emotions with my family and loved ones is a BIG part of my life. I whine. moan. hump. boo. sobz. argh. aww.. to my family and buddies.. yes it can get on pple's nerves. BUT e key is noe where to stop, ladies n gentlemen.. and whine at e most appropriate times n occasions.. for starters, DUn try moaning to someone who's hungry n sleepy.. haha. and before u pple slam me n dismiss me as a typical whiny bimbo.. I proudly declare u need to whine intelligently too. Ur whinnings shld be valid justifications, sound opinions on issues, afterthoughts and emotions on experiences.. perhaps e line blurs and gets on pple's nerves WHEN pple jus whine for NOTHING n repeat themsleves a zillion times, go in circles.. and whats WORST? they whine so much they forget to allow their listeners to whine too. ha... so e art of whinning is an art to be mastered.. but nonetheless open to all, and definitely GENDER NEUTRAL.

ha.i often lament e fact to my guy frens that they seem to be less expressive and less forthcoming when sharing their tots, or showing their fears/anxiety or simly indulging in e art of whinning. *winkz so its a pleasant surprise always.. when my guy buddies open up to me with their moanings and musing on life.

i noe my comments are not totally on point to the recent outcry.. ha. BUT i tot i'll jus offer a different perspective.

and of cos.. jus to give some credit to our poor A*STAR scholar.. spare her. i really empathise with her, somehow i suspect she has unwittingly become a victim of media sensationalisation.. let e matter rest, shall we not? =) smile.

penny for tots,
ur humble PnC gal. winkz*

 
At 9:29 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

ohhh the A*STAR girl...... she's making the headlines for all the wrong reasons. Poor thing. Well, besides media sensation, she could also be made the scrapegoat of Philip Yeo the Blunt.

 
At 10:51 AM , Blogger yvonne said...

hey, Pretty gal, I like your point of view!

 

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